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I remember "Don't ask, don't tell". I've heard people complain about gays in the military, and people complain about the people who complain about gays in the military. I've heard people give excuses to why gays should not be allowed in the military, but honestly? I don't understand.

I am not in the military, so I don't know how that life is different from mine. I don't see why it would be a problem, but apparently it is.

So, what's the deal? Can anyone explain it to me? Does homosexuality bring down morale? Is the military full of homo-phobes?

I'm honestly looking for answers here. Arguments are encouraged. I want to see all sides of this issue.

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on Mar 18, 2007
I was only like 20% wrong, so I would like to pretend that I was right. I'd like for you to go along with that if at all possible. It's very important for my self esteem.




Yeah, shower curtains are the ultimate in privacy
on Mar 18, 2007
This does lead to a point of confusion for me: if some soldiers have some privacy, why don't all soldiers? Other than the Navy (boats and subs are cramped, I hear), why can't these soldiers have more privacy? Why must the showers and latrines look as they do? Is it cost, space, time, habit?


It's called reality.
on Mar 18, 2007
It's called reality.


So portaloos are figments of the public imagination? I would have thought the reason would be cost, space and time.

Except in permanent camps it's probably a waste of resources to make the engineers corp spend time installing walls in the latrines and the bathrooms. That plywood could be used for something else, particularly when there's also those 500 buck toilet seats to be bought!
on Mar 18, 2007
I would have thought the reason would be cost, space and time.


Reality.
on Mar 18, 2007
It's called reality.


I'm still confused. (Maybe I'm brain dead today) Do different units have different utilities? I thought that everything in the army came standard.

I'm not asking why soldiers have to shower together... I'm asking why some soldiers do and some don't. Is it because some are more stationary and others more mobile?
on Mar 18, 2007
I'm not asking why soldiers have to shower together... I'm asking why some soldiers do and some don't. Is it because some are more stationary and others more mobile?


Some of it has to do with where they are and how long that place has been established or what future plans are for it.

Yeah, shower curtains are the ultimate in privacy


Ok, good point.



on Mar 18, 2007
Some of it has to do with where they are and how long that place has been established or what future plans are for it.


Fair assessment, I think.
on Mar 18, 2007
Some of it has to do with where they are and how long that place has been established or what future plans are for it.


Fair assessment, I think.


That's what I would have assumed... but then I assumed that there shouldn't be a problem with homosexuality in the army, so I didn't want to make an ass of myself twice.
on Mar 18, 2007
Do different units have different utilities?


Yepper, the facilities vary wildly even in stateside units. Once you cross the big ponds it is even less consistent.
on Mar 19, 2007
I served in the Navy. What are these "complications" that you speak of? --Abe



If you served in the Navy, aboard ship, you wouldn't have to ask that question. --MasonM


I did, any yet I have to "ask that question".

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